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Argo's avatar

Wisdom as models would work nicely for how I've been thinking of it, which is to say "phrases that work both ways". Whether you read it going forwards or backwards, it's applicable, in the same way that a model should perform well in predicting outside its training set. Example below:

Facts don't care about your feelings - things are, despite how you feel about them. But feelings also don't care about your facts - you feel how you feel, regardless of how the facts may be.

https://argomend.substack.com/i/137791932/feelings-dont-care-about-your-facts

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Thanks for joining the discussion. (This is a first time for me, and I want to write a few more ideas on wisdom in the coming weeks.) But let's review my definition:

"If these new actions are smoother, make it easier for constructing your life, and living with those around you, {these new ideas are called Wisdom}". That is my idea of it.

So if we apply this to what you referred to: {Facts don't care about your feelings}, to me that means you can't change something just by not liking it, or by feeling bad about it. But with the other, {feelings also don't care about your facts}, I think that is only if you don't accept them as facts. One way to do that might be to not examine them. or to parrot some conventional wisdom. But does that make life smoother? It is giving you verification that you were right all the time. So it does reinforce that feeling (the one that doesn't care).

When you come around to accept the (new to you) facts, I say your feelings will change (now they will care). An accepted word picture has a bodily reflection. Please think about it, if it is that way with you.

[Hey, this is fun on WNT.]

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Argo's avatar

Yep, things do change - what I wanted to highlight was that it was a short, sweet statement that works both ways to describe a particular situation. Received wisdom transmits life lessons vividly and succinctly.

"The grass is always greener on the other side", for example, works both in the common meaning (you always see the good about other people's positions), and the reverse (people generally don't appreciate what they're used to having, so appreciate what you have).

I originally came up with this point specifically for old sayings/folk wisdom, so it might be a little specific. :)

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urge2evolve's avatar

Your definition is good too: {received wisdom transmits life lessons vividly and succinctly.} Let's watch out that folk sayings are not always folk wisdom. "The grass is always greener on the other side" is more of a "folk-foible". Or maybe it is wisdom because it is reminding you not to engage with envy.

Maybe their grass is greener. But it is not your grass. Maybe you can't make your grass any greener, because you were allotted a poorer quality of soil. Wisdom doesn't necessarily give remedies. Living within your perceived limits is also a wisdom. (Only put the number of cows that your grass will support.)

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