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May I commend you as a great story teller. You really capture the details. Beginnings and endings are abstract, except maybe birth and death. The human instrument produces a feeling as its comment on all perception. It is actually a reaction to the difference between your held “should-be’s”, and your perception. If it turns out as expected, I feel great, tension released. If not, tension increased. That tension is the alarm signal that I am supposed to do something about.

Even if I prove incapable of changing the alarm signal, (I could just change my “should-be”, but NO NEVER THAT), then I can employ the abstraction of closure. Whew, that was a tough one, but at least it is finished. If it comes again, I’ll start to run. I have a whole catalog of no-go-zones.

Beginnings and endings make for a comfortable life. I’m not saying, that if we get used to things, they do not pass into the background. And even then, as you said, they live on through their consequences.

See if this is a good metaphor:

I have dabbled into studying the history of western music, which is called the 12-tone scale. Why do these 12 tones sound like music to us, when really sound is a continuous band of frequency change, with 1,000’s of tones?? It is really a complete mystery to me? I have no idea. Bernstein at a 6-minute Harvard lecture, explains the overtones in music, which develop from the octave, to the 5th, then the 4th overtone, then the 3rd, then the triad, (tonal music) which includes the tonic and the dominate, making it diatonic.

It becomes Diatonicism balanced with Chromaticism equally powerful and presumable contradictory pathways. Please take a moment to watch these 6 minutes, which will help me get to my point. Don’t bother to try to absorb it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt2zubHcER4

Just know that there are intervals in music. In this lecture we are listening to chords made up of these intervals, but it is the same with a violin or a woodwind. Instead of cords, you have a sequence, but the feeling produced is the same. My point is music is not the notes, but it is the jump in the frequency, which is the interval between the notes. All the Intervals elicit a different feeling. The two major categories of feelings are “closure”, and “openness”, (the lack of closure), which is rest, and movement, or the start or jumping off point for further movement.

If a piece or a passage ends on an openness, you will feel uneasy. That open interval is supposed to be further movement, but where do we go from here? If every passage ends on a closure-interval, it is boring and still-born. Music is a mixture between opening and closing. At the first performance of the Rite of Spring by Stravinsky in May of 1913, there was an audience riot outside. It is the most notorious scandal in music history. Some wanted to “string him up” on a lamppost, Outrage, or others wanted at least have him arrested. They demanded the grace and elegance of traditional music, like the more conventional Tchaikovsky’s Swan Lake.

Your two stories illustrate this perfectly. Although, I don’t think anyone wanted to “string-up” Frieren? Are audiences more forgiving or more sophisticated. When Frieren started on her “after-journeys, maybe those impatient people started thinking about their shopping list; not to waste any more time??

History takes time, energy, and interest – all finite resources. I swear that I never cared about history for decades and decades. I used the excuse that so much has changed by now, that 20-30 years ago they couldn’t possibly know what is relevant in this age. But now reading it, I see that so little has changed even from 500, and 1,000 years ago. Wow, that is really disheartening.

Some seek safety by being “authority dependent. It is they who flock to validate. I can’t change them about that. Best if you can learn to sit with complexity, (without undue anxiety). At this point I would never think of shutting complexity out, because it is really no big deal. In some of my posts I try to say that contradiction (complexity) is the result of a narrow context. I can’t be sure that is always the case, but I find it where I do. And we will always have limited belief systems.

Thanks for a stimulating topic.

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